In this episode of The Mia Connect Power Chat, we talk about getting in touch with your feelings in different ways. We have a panel of experts who work with people with their lives, through different means… But mostly, we have horses, horses, and horses!
Check out our guest line up:
Adelheid Hörnlein of Paradiso Integrale: We call her “Heidi.” She’s been practicing Integral Theory for 15 years, and an expert in Transformational Relationship Coaching, Integral Practice, and Integral Voice Training.
Les Dossey of UGH-TV, The Adviser’s Path, and a lot more!: A life coach, professional coach, organizational consultant, anger management coach, relationship consultant… And he grew up riding horses!
Devon Combs of Beyond The Arena: Some people call her “The Horse Girl.” She uses The Equine Gestalt Coaching Method (Yup! It’s about horses.) to help people be the better person that they are.
And introducing Detail: The star of the show! An Appendix Mare (which is a mix of Thoroughbred and Quarter Horse), 14 years old (about 42 human years), loves grain, has a super-soft chin, and kept giving me a lovely nose tiara.
So Let’s Talk About Horses.
Horses are a lot sensitive because they’re preyed upon in the wild; so they’re extremely sensitive. They have to feel safe, to want to connect with somebody. With horses, you actually have to build a trusting relationship with them and it takes a while to establish that trust. But once you do, there’s nothing like it. It’s when people are real and authentic with their feelings that’s when the horse feels safe.
It’s called “Hippotherapy” or simply riding horses. We got a lot of comments about how horses helped people with disabilities: From autism, to partial paralysis, to emotional challenges. Most of Devon’s clientele are people with unfinished businesses. Either from childhood issues, family dynamics, or relationship challenges, it’s keeping them from moving on with their lives. A lot of that is stuck energy in their body. Horses are incredible healers because they will often tune-in to a person’s body where that’s held. But the horse won’t judge them. They want the person to be completely honest and get real with a lot of their pain. And that’s where the healing starts.
So Let’s Talk About Our Guests.
Les listened to his followers, and started a podcast dedicated to PROs (people from the legal, financial, consulting, and coaching world). I love that what he’s doing is helping people who are in these fields. With our experts helping them, they’re gonna do their job better in helping us.
Heidi made a mission in her life to hear what people need in their lives like the rest of the experts. But she’s more with meditation. She works with relationship issues by doing retreats for couples. As she says, “The beginning of the peace in the world begins peace in yourself, and then in your nearest relationships.” Most inspired by Integral Theory by Ken Wilber, she’ll be launching a project called The Wisdom Factory.
Devon is involved with the women’s networking group called Crave Denver, and she is featured in the book that we’re launching.
Why I brought these experts on is because there’s a running theme about getting in touch with emotions and feelings.
So Let’s Talk about Their Different Versions Of Therapy.
Devon works a lot with women in the professional world. They wear masks to work and they feel like they can’t be their authentic selves. It’s harming them by costing them a lot of joy and peace in their lives. Devon gives them a coaching and they get to be with the horse—and they’ll be able to drop that mask. The horse will not connect with them if they’re putting up a big wall. With coaching, they’ll be able to drop that mask and the horse will instantly walk over to them. It’s the best validation of being honest with themselves.
Horses pick up the energy behind our words too. They can’t comprehend words like people do, but they pick up the energy behind what we say.
That speaks with the power of words and intentions, like what Heidi is working on. We have our minds and we must honor that too. Intentions have incredible power. When you say an intention, you don’t just make it in your mind; you also feel and anchor it in your body. You use your whole body to confirm this intention. You align with this intention in whatever you do, and then ask yourself if what you’re doing is good for where you want to go or not.
Less has a place where he goes to think. Whenever he goes there, he enters a different state: More relaxed, more open… He gets quiet and listen. As a result, he often gets clarity and “downloads from on high.” It helps him focus and get answers from anything he’s contemplating on. What’s interesting is that people naturally go in and out of this state, and they’re not aware that it’s happening. What Les teaches people is how to do it consciously and deliberately, so they can get benefits from it almost on demand.
Les’s old place was the tub, and now a spot in his office. And to Heidi, it’s looking at the stars at night. Me? I get the best ideas in the shower.
So Let’s Talk About Bat Crap Crazy
Heidi: A little 4-month dog she found in Rome. There is a holiday in Italy where families throw their dog somewhere. While walking in Rome, the dog followed Heidi for about 4 kilometers. So they adopted her. Her name is “Lucky.”
Les: Bat crap crazy about Mia… Me? I’ll take that.
Devon: The horses, her dog, and Betty for providing a place and generously allowing them to work with her horses.
Debbie: Animals all-in-all. Whether your own or not, having moments with them just gives some sort of help in many ways.
Mia: Beyond The Arena, and Detail the horse. If I could only fit her in my Toyota Forerunner, I’d have taken her with me.
Big shout out to Debi Davis for producing this show!
With her 8 arms, she made everything come together for this on-location show!
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